The John Sloan Dickey Center for International Understanding

The International Security Podcast: Why Populists Love Dead Soldiers and Hate Live Officers

May 1, 2026

On the latest episode of his International Security podcast, Jeff Friedman sits down with Ron Krebs, Distinguished McKnight University Professor and Professor of Political Science at the University of Minnesota to explore why right-wing populist leaders love soldiers (especially fallen ones) and the trappings of military life, but their love affair with the military rarely endures. Krebs discusses how romanticizing and mythologizing the military solves a political problem for populists: how to mobilize people power without actually granting power to the people.

Listen here.